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[new] remnants (Avg. Score: 3.00 / Raters: 1) (#5)
by amy on Sun Apr 25th, 2004 at 07:21:46 AM EURODISCORDIA TIME
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as to middle ground, aileen, i like your suggestion you made once, possibly not on discordia, about discordia being a home for remnants. loose thoughts - they don't fit in your email, they don't fit on a formal list.

i don't like a lot of blogs because they look like email from a friend, except the author isn't my friend. i'd rather get email from an actual friend.

i don't like discussion lists anymore because they overwhelm me. four years ago i enjoyed those kinds of "community" but no more. everything's an online community nowadays - workgroups with people i'm directly working with by email and/or in peoplespace, ebay, rentacoder. i've become a big advocate of anti-social software. if greta garbo had lived in the age of email and online communities, she would have *really* wanted to be alone...

but before i crawl back into walden pond, i'll point out that this for me is the positive side of discordia... it doesn't hammer you constantly. in this day and age, i don't completely understand the pressure of constant updates on an online site. it doesn't make them seem alive to me, it makes them seem overbearing. i think this expectation for constant new information is some transference of capitalist conditioning: always have to have something new and something more, always have to be working, idle hands are the devil's workshop...

or just a much needed rest...

my favorite "real" communities are the ones that come together when someone has reason to bring them together and go apart when not... saves on burnout...

back to walden with me now, til i've got some more remnants to post...

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The positive side of Discordia by Aileen, 05/08/2004 01:54:40 PM EURODISCORDIA TIME (none / 0)
e-mail in bed by Aileen, 04/25/2004 01:01:21 PM EURODISCORDIA TIME (none / 0)
hither and again by joerabie, 04/25/2004 11:42:18 AM EURODISCORDIA TIME (none / 0)

[new] when is personal trivial, when is it artful? (Avg. Score: none / Raters: 0) (#4)
by joerabie on Thu Apr 22nd, 2004 at 12:57:50 AM EURODISCORDIA TIME
(User Info) http://www.magelis.com/joezone/

There is so much "personal" that one is exposed to. It certainly has sales value, as the Beckhams are the most recent to experience on the "celeb chain gang (at the same time, how many couples were destroyed in, for example, Falludjia?)", let alone all the others clamouring for a role in some Reality Show .

I think that "personal" is important because without it, things are sterile. But not "personal" in terms of titillation and the exposure of titbits of one's private life, rather insofar as it informs one's intellectual, political, artful being.

It is a question of placing one's discourse within the narrative of one's self... the story that is told, the literary techniques used, of metaphor, irony, other forms (I'm no expert), give human stature to what is otherwise a skeleton of concepts.

Perhaps I am not clear. At my own personal level, with my wife (personal, heh!), we have been dispossessed of a company we created. I was running it, but was removed by the Board when we hit difficulties. At the core of these problems is a partner, the general manager, a terrible person who for his own obscure, absurd reasons has been destroying all constructive, team efforts to get somewhere. He has torpedoed all attempts to get somewhere, so that he can say "you see" when the boat sinks. Now that he and the new director have shown there incapacity to get anywhere, my wife and I are on the warpath. We are writing an email to all the partners, to try and salvage what remains. Why am I telling you this? Because of the confrontation between our writing styles, which is interesting. I tend to use metaphor more - my wife says that the problem with the general manager is that he brings up the same old issues, month after month, and uses them to block all progress; I say that he he ruminates on the same fecal matter, like a terminally constipated cow. But my wife didn't want to put that in our email.

And now, very personally, I am off to a warm, inviting bed (and partner).

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